There’s No Decent Place to Stand in a Massacre

By | November 7, 2025

[November 7, 2025] Canadian songwriter Leonard Cohen wrote the lyrics to his song “The Captain,” published in 1984. The poem is unsettling and dark. Ultimately, it’s about war, moral ambiguity, and the most difficult choices we must make. In the fourth verse, he begins with, ‘There’s no decent place to stand in a massacre.’

A few weeks ago, I wondered why I even considered writing about this topic since I already had it on my list. When I read the poem, my first thoughts went to Custer’s Last Stand, where his entire unit was wiped out by Sioux Indians. Then, images of Vietnam’s My Lai Massacre jumped out at me—a clear moral collapse on the part of American soldiers, if I’ve ever seen one.

“The Captain” is a poignant and unsettling exploration of the human cost of war and the erosion of moral certainty. Through its bleak imagery, cynical tone, and haunting symbols, the poem paints a picture of a world where traditional values have collapsed and individuals are left to grapple with the weight of responsibility in the face of overwhelming loss and disillusionment. — Poetry Voice

I think Poetry Voice misses something more important in their interpretation of Cohen’s poem.  Cohen is about choosing between a terrible, morally depraved act – as in perpetuating a massacre – and the destruction of me and you and those around us – as in being massacred.  Inside a massacre, Cohen believes that a deadly choice is being forced upon us to make, and therefore, we must choose, where both options are horrible to contemplate.

“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. — Luke 11:23 NIV

At first reading, I thought the poem was about fence-sitting, the inability to make a choice.  But it goes deeper.  It goes to the more profound moral convictions that we hold dear to ensure our long-term prosperity, the survival of our culture, and the proper handling of social integration. The argument could be made, but this black-and-white choice, while not easy, is certainly not as clear-cut as we expect.

I recall being told, as a senior Army officer, that I would often be forced to choose between two or more undesirable options.  Either decision could be wrong, but we still had to choose, where any decision might just violate our fundamental values. And that is the purpose of having experienced, educated, intelligent thinkers as leaders.  There is hope they will make the best of a bad situation.

One criticism I will receive for my analysis of Cohen’s poem is that I’m taking the phrase out of context of the rest of the poem. And, yes, that is true to some degree, but of all the verses, this one stands out to me, and apparently to others, as it is the most openly discussed on the Internet.  

At its peak, the poem is about a clash of fundamental values, including the protection of innocent and not-so-innocent lives.  It is about what is the most fundamental of values and how our actions, as leaders, determine how we will influence the future.  

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12 thoughts on “There’s No Decent Place to Stand in a Massacre

  1. Navy Vet

    WOW. I’d not like to be there either.
    And, Happy Birthday of our US Marine Corps established this date, November 10, some 250 years ago.

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  2. Karl J.

    I’m glad that I’m a regular reader and can understand a little of where Gen. Satterfield is coming from. On the surface, this poem is about a choice between life and evil. Which do I choose? That question is much more common than we might think. Could you read this and THINK? If you do not think, you may face such a choice and not be ready.

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  3. Yusaf from Texas

    This is the kind of article that I love to read from Gen. Satterfield. Here he discusses an ethical issue. And while I doubt seriously that any of us would find ourselves there, thanks to the strength of the United States and the democratic alliances across the globe, it certainly was not that long ago that massacres did happen and are going on today. For example, in Nigeria (part of the trash of subsahara Africa) we see Christians being massacred by Muslims. I’m glad that President Trump is giving the president of Nigeria some attention and drawing our attention to this atrocity.

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    1. Winston

      Yusaf and Gen. Satterfield, I have to write about this article being one of the most odd, but I guess, not unexpected. We are appropriately dealing with an ethical dilemma and one’s answer to is difficult at best, and impossible at worst. Well, not impossible. Would you rather die in a massacre or commit a massacre? Fortunately, we don’t have to worry about that but to debate this ethical issue is a good thing. Choose a side and try to defend it. Now that is an exercise in stressing the brain power.

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  4. Linux Man

    Very interesting look, Gen. S. Well done! I’d also never heard of this moral tug-of-war.

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  5. The Kid

    Sir, yes, taking this out of context is a criticism but overall, your look at “there is no decent place to stand in a massacre” is well taken, either within context or not. There is a moral dilemma here. How that dilemma is resolved is what is important. Which moral code stands at the top of the heirarchy.

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  6. Bobby Joe

    I never heard of this poem, but it is as you say Gen. Satterfield, it is dark. Well, it does say something, I think that is important, and that is morality does come into play. We know that the basis of morality is biological, although more deeply part of humans because of our internactions with one another. Well written and analysis. Thanks for informing us as to the poem itself by Leonard Cohen.

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    1. erleldech

      Hi Bobby Joe, yes, Gen. Satterfield readily gives us a glimpse into the dark world of war, destruction, and tragedy. What exactly he does this for, should be obvious. He is a warrior, and a warrior’s job is to protect the homeland, using ethical ways of course. And that he is an expert. I think we all need to look deeply into our souls to search for the evil that “runs through our hearts” so that we can use that strength to do good in our world.

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      1. Wesley Brown

        Well said, Bobby and erleldech. I too don’t like looking at that evil/dark place in my heart either but it is necessary if we are to be good men.

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